Comments on: The light goes out on incandescents… hello CFLs & LEDs! http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/ A Mom's Journey To Green Living Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:33:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: » Vacation and a “green bravo” to the OBX! - Mom Goes Green http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-6827 » Vacation and a “green bravo” to the OBX! - Mom Goes Green Thu, 04 Aug 2011 05:49:05 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-6827 [...] conscious not to be wasteful. We made sure not to waste energy or over-consume — from turning off lights to waiting for a full dishwasher — and even purchased all of our usual organic food and [...] [...] conscious not to be wasteful. We made sure not to waste energy or over-consume — from turning off lights to waiting for a full dishwasher — and even purchased all of our usual organic food and [...]

]]> By: » Plastic bags + animals = heartbreak - Mom Goes Green http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-6256 » Plastic bags + animals = heartbreak - Mom Goes Green Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:06:50 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-6256 [...] of the first things everyone says to do in a “mission to go green” is to switch to CFLs, or eat organic, or switch all of your products to eco-friendly formulas, or buy a reusable water [...] [...] of the first things everyone says to do in a “mission to go green” is to switch to CFLs, or eat organic, or switch all of your products to eco-friendly formulas, or buy a reusable water [...]

]]> By: » A Happy and Green New Year… from A to Z! - Mom Goes Green http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-4074 » A Happy and Green New Year… from A to Z! - Mom Goes Green Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:10:53 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-4074 [...] toilet paper, paper towels, etc.). C – CFLs, Cleaners, Compost – Replace your lights with compact fluorescents.  Skip the chemicals in traditional, commercial cleaners and opt for eco-friendly choices. Start [...] [...] toilet paper, paper towels, etc.). C – CFLs, Cleaners, Compost – Replace your lights with compact fluorescents.  Skip the chemicals in traditional, commercial cleaners and opt for eco-friendly choices. Start [...]

]]> By: Earth Friendly Goodies http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3610 Earth Friendly Goodies Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:21:17 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3610 Most of the bulbs in my house are CFLs now but I must say as well that I haven't had good luck with them lasting very long. Some have even burned out in less than 3 months! One thing you can do is contact the company that made them if you do get early burn outs (some companies offer 3 year guarantees). I was even able to return some that burnt out early to the store I bought them from. LEDs seem to be more promising than CFLs. I was reading recently in Popular Science about a competition to create a cheep LED bulb that uses less than 10 watts I think. I don't have the article handy and can't remember the details of course, but it looks like efforts are being made to produce better, cheaper alternatives to CFLs. .-= Earth Friendly Goodies´s last blog ..<a href="http://earthfriendlygoodies.com/eco-blog/234/sarahs-silks-natural-handmade-halloween-costumes" rel="nofollow">Sarah’s Silks Natural Handmade Halloween Costumes</a> =-. Most of the bulbs in my house are CFLs now but I must say as well that I haven’t had good luck with them lasting very long. Some have even burned out in less than 3 months! One thing you can do is contact the company that made them if you do get early burn outs (some companies offer 3 year guarantees). I was even able to return some that burnt out early to the store I bought them from.

LEDs seem to be more promising than CFLs. I was reading recently in Popular Science about a competition to create a cheep LED bulb that uses less than 10 watts I think. I don’t have the article handy and can’t remember the details of course, but it looks like efforts are being made to produce better, cheaper alternatives to CFLs.
.-= Earth Friendly Goodies´s last blog ..Sarah’s Silks Natural Handmade Halloween Costumes =-.

]]> By: Doreen http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3604 Doreen Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:40:20 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3604 Gus - Agreed! But the likelihood of me doing that research is somewhere between the "not likely" and "not me" category! :) But yes, I wish there was some valid information about which CFL possess the truly quality and usefulness we are all looking for! Frannie - Happy to help a friend out! :) Gus – Agreed! But the likelihood of me doing that research is somewhere between the “not likely” and “not me” category! :) But yes, I wish there was some valid information about which CFL possess the truly quality and usefulness we are all looking for!

Frannie – Happy to help a friend out! :)

]]> By: @unscrewamerica http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3583 @unscrewamerica Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:38:37 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3583 Great article. More on CFLs and LEDs at http://www.unscrewamerica.org! Great article. More on CFLs and LEDs at http://www.unscrewamerica.org!

]]> By: Frannie http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3579 Frannie Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:33:41 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3579 I was just telling a friend of mine this morning about CFLs and what to do if they broke (her cat knocked over the lamp). Your timing couldn't be more perfect, thank you! That's wonderful news learning about the US banning them completely. .-= Frannie´s last blog ..<a href="http://onegreenmommy.blogspot.com/2009/10/green-kid-birthday-parties.html" rel="nofollow">Green Kid Birthday Parties</a> =-. I was just telling a friend of mine this morning about CFLs and what to do if they broke (her cat knocked over the lamp). Your timing couldn’t be more perfect, thank you! That’s wonderful news learning about the US banning them completely.
.-= Frannie´s last blog ..Green Kid Birthday Parties =-.

]]> By: Gus Snarp http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3574 Gus Snarp Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:38:03 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3574 Well, I really want to get behind CFLs, but I think a lot of them have been rushed to market and manufactured on the cheap, an that's why you get shorter than advertised lifespans. I wish there were some good, concise information on WHICH CFLs to buy, based on real-world lifespans, energy consumption, and how the manufacturer handles toxics. Hey, in all your copious spare time why don't you whip that up for us? ;-) Well, I really want to get behind CFLs, but I think a lot of them have been rushed to market and manufactured on the cheap, an that’s why you get shorter than advertised lifespans. I wish there were some good, concise information on WHICH CFLs to buy, based on real-world lifespans, energy consumption, and how the manufacturer handles toxics. Hey, in all your copious spare time why don’t you whip that up for us? ;-)

]]> By: Doreen http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3573 Doreen Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:45:18 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3573 Gus - once again you provide great information! Thanks for sharing an even greater insight! Gus – once again you provide great information! Thanks for sharing an even greater insight!

]]> By: Gus Snarp http://www.momgoesgreen.com/the-light-goes-out-on-incandescents%e2%80%a6-hello-cfls-leds/comment-page-1/#comment-3572 Gus Snarp Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:27:36 +0000 http://www.momgoesgreen.com/?p=5314#comment-3572 This sounds great and all, but I think it's too early. I hate to advocate market solutions, but this is a place where they might be appropriate. CFLs and LEDs are expensive because their production is energy intensive. They have to actually serve the life span that is claimed for them in order to see any gains in energy consumption, even if the toxics issue is set aside. I have been using CFLs for some time now, and I experience burn outs at least as frequently as I do with incandescents. If the bulbs require greater energy input and contain toxic mercury and they burn out just as quickly, then its a net loss. What can, and should happen, is carbon taxation and an end to coal subsidies so that energy prices are properly reflected. Then, ultimately, CFLs and LEDs will become more cost effective and will compete with incandescents. In turn, more money will be invested in improving the efficiency of incandescents (which can, in theory, result in an even greater gain in efficiency than CFLs). Then the most efficient product will win out on cost and all the products will be forced to get more efficient. This sounds great and all, but I think it’s too early. I hate to advocate market solutions, but this is a place where they might be appropriate. CFLs and LEDs are expensive because their production is energy intensive. They have to actually serve the life span that is claimed for them in order to see any gains in energy consumption, even if the toxics issue is set aside. I have been using CFLs for some time now, and I experience burn outs at least as frequently as I do with incandescents. If the bulbs require greater energy input and contain toxic mercury and they burn out just as quickly, then its a net loss. What can, and should happen, is carbon taxation and an end to coal subsidies so that energy prices are properly reflected. Then, ultimately, CFLs and LEDs will become more cost effective and will compete with incandescents. In turn, more money will be invested in improving the efficiency of incandescents (which can, in theory, result in an even greater gain in efficiency than CFLs). Then the most efficient product will win out on cost and all the products will be forced to get more efficient.

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